Tuesday, March 24, 2009

Politics of the K-word and the magic of “GANDHI”!

Before I start, this is going to be my most controversial post so far… I hope to live after that…however, I don't know that I will or I won't!!

This is one of those days when you lose all your faith and all your beliefs are questioned. This is also the time when you feel that a 80 year old politician on death bed is much better than a venomous 29 year old as nature would help you to get rid of the former but you may have to live to see the latter rise to power for the next 50 years (at least…u know they all live a lot more than they deserve!)

What is this time? This is the time of Shri Varun Gandhi's claim to fame…through a tried, tested and safe "Short Cut"!

Political rallies and bhashans (debate is asking for too much from Indian politicians) have always been filled with scathing attacks on others. But there is a difference between a MP aspirant and a fundamentalist demagogue…there is a line…which was not crossed by most of our National politicians till now, till the verbal diarrhea of Varun Gandhi. When the line was crossed there was no stopping, he went on and on. There were promises made to kill the Muslims if elected to power and, quite foolishly, how Muslims names are scary! But the ultimate blow was the use of the K-word

The K-word is the religionist counterpart of the racist N-word of USA, nobody uses it, even in the most intense and ugly debates. It may be a political obligation or just general courtesy. People, who use it, are effectively ostracized. It is a clear breach of decency, commenting on someone's private part which is related to his religion! Are you kidding me man! But its India folks, nothing happens. NOTHING AT ALL HAPPENS.

WHY??

It's the Gandhi effect. Someone who belongs to the first family of Indian politics, though only by last name, is free to say or do anything. The Gandhi magic works till date. He is above the Election Commission and definitely way beyond the fundamentals of Democracy. This man can be the PM of India some day, just because of his last name. He is the trump card to nullify the effect of another Gandhi who happens to be his cousin. Jai Ho!!

His party didn't even feel to distance itself from him. On the other hand they came out in full support and claimed it was all doctored. It was not doctored; it was indeed what the Doctor ordered. BJP needs these kinds of political dramas to keep itself in news and to remind its vote bank that it's there for them. In the time when Recession or Terrorism or Foreign Policy should be electoral issues, BJP sticks religiously to religion. It is an issue that is always in vogue. They shoot to power in 1998 because they promised a solution to the Temple issue…where is that? It's still controversial and after Godhra -2002, it has become murkier. They are promising the same thing again and I can bet they will not build it this time also. You know why? Apart from the fact that they don't have the guts to do anything real (a trait that transcends all political barriers), they know this is not the last election. If they build it this time than what will they promise next time and all the times after that…???

The politics of the K-word doesn't end here. Hindu fundamentalists argue that they use it, because Muslims use another K-word for them. That word is kafir, which is not as offensive as its Hindu counterpart. What a strange competition, who uses more slangs and who insults the other religion more! Kudos !

However this is not the scariest part of the whole scenario. The scariest part is that it comes from a person who belongs to a well-to-do family, has not suffered anything other than inevitable personal tragedies and who is just 29 years of age. And yes he is literate too. I can't call him educated because this is not what educated people do. If I call him educated, I am happy to be called an illiterate roadside pebble who at least has an opinion of himself and doesn't speak what his party elders ask him to. These youngsters will bring a change? God help India!

And yes, just for the record, I am a Hindu too, but I am ashamed to be called one today just as I was ashamed after 1992 –Ayodhya, 2002- Godhra and 2008- Orissa…I don't know how many times my religion would be ashamed and my beliefs questioned by the people who actually claim to be the flag bearers of Hinduism.

22 comments:

lifes' like this.. never fair never right said...

This is childish!!
You have spent enough time on planet earth in this god damned country and I am sure enough time you have studied to understand that the whole drama is nothing but a political stunt. All the politicians who have ruled the country have done something or the other of this sort to get the jump start. I wont take names here flip through your GK book for that ..

About your line where you say that " In the time when Recession or Terrorism or Foreign Policy should be electoral issues, BJP sticks religiously to religion " , tell me who is not doing it , which party is not playing the secular or non secular card ... When you say that why some party is making it an issue again because you should understand two facts :
1. The politics is not for us : I mean educated ones because we understand that there are bigger issues to be handled first. Most of us dont even vote ? Do you ?
2. The politics is for the poor an illiterate who dont even think , most of them go to rallies to get that 100 ruppee note that they get in bakshish after the big event. Do you think they have enough mind to understand any other issue such as recession or financial meltdown ? And do you think they even care about that . Half of the people who vote do it because that day they get a few hundred ruppee and a free ride to the election venue.

So commenting on what kind of politics is being excercised by the up coming politicians . is as useless as thinking after masturbating that you might have got aids by doing so.. Please dont mind the example.

Anyway good that you have an opinion about it but I would suggest when it comes to Indian politics take it as it is without a question or doubt about it in your mind.

God Bless India

vijay said...

okay the same cliched stuff again about the bjp.Yes what Varun Gandhi said was wrong but how come no one has a problem with the so called prime minister of the country coming out and saying minorities should have claim to the first resource.How come no has a prob when the government says dalit muslims ,dalit chrisitians and what not need reservation.If the BJP opposses it it is communal.umpteen examples
1) BJP gets angry against mf hussain(read mf as an abuse) = communal
tasleema writes something provocative against muslims and is sent out by congress= secular

da vinci code being banned =secular;
2) amarnath issue which only the bjp took up = communal(dont hindus have a right to use land in kashmir)isnt it part of india no political party had the guts to back the bjp fearing vote bank politics!!
is it wrong for bjp to stick up for hindus.When every party goes after minority vote bank (obviously hindus dont matter because anyway their vote is divided by reservation caste so they dont matter wheras minorities vote as a block)
why should anyone be ashamed that bjp is taking up the cause of hindus.
Coming to so called secularism where were u and the medai when karunanadhi said ram is imaginary character and ram is a drunkard. how the hell did media not call it communal.
if all this is what communal means then i am glad to be communal!!
ps if ur ashamed with godhra then u should be ashamed of sikh riots and a muslim should equally be ashamed for burning the ram sevaks in the train before godhra AMEN!!unfortunately its become fashionable these days to be pseudo secular for the elitist and the media.

Anonymous said...

as far as the indian voter being smart is concerned if he was he would not be voting for ppl like lallu just because he is an yadav or vote for mayawati because she is a dalit.They should vote on real issues and since the voter doesnt do that states like tamil nadu ,up bihar deserve to be as they are now. Gujarat is a role model.

Harshit Gupta said...

as somebody said, In India, they don't cast their vote, they vote their caste....

Harshit Gupta said...

btw, on Varun Gandhi, the fact is that he HAS done what he had to do.. now he's got what he wanted, easy publicity.. and a stand.. wherever it is.. the next name in chronological order after Raj Thackeray/Thakre... welcome to Indian politics, Mr Incorrect.. However unfortunate, THIS IS our politics..

subhankar said...

everything about your views on the diminishing image of true hindutva is acceptable.but don,t you think that the larger than life image generated out of post godhra riots pales into insignificance compared to all the blunders muslim fundamentalists have committed.Post godhra was just a outburst of the pent up emotions of a majority community that has been relegated to near second class citizenship.the political powerplay has to be distanced from religious sentiments.

Writefully Yours said...

@subhankar
i repect ur feelings regarding godhra...but don't forget that muslim fundamentalists are mostly foreigners,...there are some indians too..like SIMI or IM...but they are uneducated, directionless and brainwashed youth and not a frontline political party like the bjp..plus the indian muslim fundamentalists are a by product of hindu extremisms..1992 produced a daud ibrahim..2002 produced a IM or SIMI...and don't be surprised if a Christian fundamentalist organisation crops up due to Kandhamal

Writefully Yours said...

@Harshit
varun ghandhi can't get what he wants..he should not..if he gets away by this then it would discourage many youngsters to enter politics...this would be very very sad

subhankar said...

@ mathur.
why dont we look at it this way...that a sabarmati carnage produced post godhra.and please...a well oiled D gang which works with full political and police patronage cannot be a rebel.just go by the lifestlye of daud..a alcoholic,a lover of destruction,a mafia running drug traffic..he isn't a true muslim afterall.What emotions could he have for babri.I hope u know that the maoists operating in eastern belt have already claimed responsibility fo the lakshmananda murder.our cm has left no stone unturned to track the culprits.the split with bjp is a national news.bjd comprises mostly of hindus and wasn't a party to this massacre.dara singh was denied candidature and is serving alife sentence for the murder of graham staines.u will be surprised by the official figures of muslims killed in the BAD(bangalore,ahmedabad,delhi) blasts carried out by the mujhahids...are they really worried about islam and its progress.i feel we need to think again.

Writefully Yours said...

@Subhankar
ur in a way strengthening my point only...".u will be surprised by the official figures of muslims killed in the BAD(bangalore,ahmedabad,delhi) blasts carried out by the mujhahids...are they really worried about islam and its progress.i feel we need to think again."..that's what i m saying..all terrorists may sadly be Muslims but all Muslims are not terrorists...so no Varun Ghandhi can promise to cut the hands of Muslims...and call them the K-word...u say we have to think again..indeed we have to...if maoists took responsibility of lakshmananda murder then don't u feel that the whole riot, nun-rape and mass murder was just an opportunity grabbed by the bjp supported bajrang dal? wasn't it a planned action and not just a reaction which may have been the case in gujarat?

VIJAY said...

muslim fundamentalists come because of hindu fundamentalists!! thats the most preposterous stament i have ever heard!! as far as kandhamal goes why isnt any one having any problems with forced conversions.Have u been to any villages they basically give money to the poor and asking them to convert.do hindus go around asking ppl from other religions to convert in return for money. wtf!! subhankar is spot on.Its about time pseudo secularists get kicked in their ass for supporting minority reservation ,praising mofo hussain and saying minorities have the first right to resource.

VIJAY said...

and sanjay dutt needs to be put behind bars once again for yapping abt muslims being tortured (for vote bank politics)

Unknown said...

JAI HO
Varun gandhi’s outburst is really unfortunate if true. One can’t judge a 25 year party over a outburst of 29 year old emotional man.by the way CD is gone to cyber lab and truthfullness of CD is not proved yet.In case if CD is right booking a naïve politician like him under NSA is extremely unfortunate. NSA is meant for a person who is really threat to sovereignty of country.But jai ho vote bank politics in India so called secular parties don’t have the guts to hang Afjal Guru(convicted in blast case on parliament and supreme court has instructed government so many times) they don’t have dare to book SIMI and IM activist under NSA because fear of loosing vote bank.Varun Gandhi is very young and very new in politics and he could be forgiven for his statement.But what you say about Mr. A.R. Antulay(very educated and experienced leader of congress and central minister) raised suspicion over the incident that was watched by whole country and at the time when all world was watching towards us.His remarks over martyr made him God and so called secular party put his all power for convince him not to resign from ministry again jai ho vote bank politics jai ho congress. No Indian party came forward for condemning him in the fear of loosing minority votes except BJP. For this if you call BJP communal than its unfortunate. But all so called secular parties were stood up for criticizing batli wala encounter and had suspicion over martyrdom of Great cop Mahesh Chandra Shreevastva. Great shame…,
What does secular mean?? No discrimination on the basis of religion (when would people of this country understand that Hinduism also is a religion in this country and needs to be treated like others).Now we talk about development ,2004 General election was the only election that was fought on the issue Development. But damn Indian democracy here people see their caste in election not development.
Series blast in Banglore, Ahmadabad, Delhi happened due to failure of intelligence agency. Reports shows intelligence agency didn’t have control over SIMI and IM due to lack of any hard law .SIMI had completely vanished due to POTA in 2003-04.POTA was applied by BJP government during their regime. But SIMI got new life and grew with the new name Indian Mujahidin thanks to UPA government, they removed POTA for pleasing minority. And after blast due to anger of people they came up with makoka same like pota. If it had done before lives of thousands could have been saved. Again
Jai ho vote bank politics.
You are a proud hindu and please don’t use language of politician like Nehru ji(he once wrote the similar thing in museum of England). one should not be feel ashamed for being hindu for few incidents .Hinduism is a great religion too like others that teaches us nonviolence. Godhara 2002/gujrat riots and kandhamal have happened due to provocation. one should also see the reason beyond these unfortunate incidents.killing of innocent Ram sewak and assassination of swami laxmananand Saraswati were the reasons.
Congress has scored over other parties by choosing its electoral theme JAI HO…
JAI HO CONGRESS ..JAI HO VOTE BANK POLITICS ……JAI HO PSEUDOSECULARISM

Writefully Yours said...

@shashank
thanks for ur elaborated response...i really appreciate ur effort..i wanna make my blog a platform for political debates between common people like us and u r helping...
anyways regarding ur views..i obviously don't agree...but i would tell u why..
firstly, questioning the authenticity of the CD is very political..we all have seen the video on TV..its just a political stunt to procrastinate the proceedings...we ,as educated ppl, should not fall prey to all these things...no result will ever come out of that aforementioned "CYBER LAB"..(as if that's a real lab)..we know the tehelka tapes or tapes of dilip singh joodev taking bribes(u knw the party!) were never proved either right or wrong..so its just waste of time..and try to divert ppl's attention...
secondly,afzal guru...this is just twisting of facts that SC has "INSTRUCTED" the government to hang him..SC passed its judgment and then his clemency plea is pending with the President..i partly agree that his clemency plea is delayed by the home ministry deliberately..but i can also assure that even BJP will not hang guru if its voted back..i may not justify my reasons here..but this is for all of us to wait and watch..
thirdly,what A.R. antulay said was unfortunate...no question about that...his intentions were malign...but it was a very important point that nobody noticed till he blurted out...imagine a terror attack..its being just 20 mins..and 3 top officials die..i mean how often do ATS chief and ppl of SP/DSP rank die? they don't go and fight on front...so even if there is an iota of doubt..it should be cleared...considering that Hemant Karkare was also involved in probe of Malegaon blasts which, for the first time,brought hindu extremism to light...
then, u said "No Indian party came forward for condemning him in the fear of loosing minority votes except BJP. For this if you call BJP communal than its unfortunate"...BJP has no minority vote bank to lose...so they can say anything to become pseudo heroes!!'
however, u r most disturbing comment comes after this..."they removed POTA for pleasing minority"..no body is pleased if ppl die..if educated ppl like u have this bias towards Muslims and are so dogmatic ,then definitely we are a contributing factor in then turning to terrorism..the day to day humiliation and suspect they have to undergo might push them beyond the boundary of civilized society...regarding POTA..now its a very controversial issue which,honestly i believe, goes beyond the cognizance of u or me...see no common person can understand a law just by following magazines and news papers...it very complicated than that..what u r stating is just the articles and editorials of some dogged newspapers and magazines...
u say..."Series blast in Banglore, Ahmadabad, Delhi happened due to failure of intelligence agency. Reports shows intelligence agency didn’t have control over SIMI and IM due to lack of any hard law .SIMI had completely vanished due to POTA in 2003-04"...POTA is not a solution to terrorism..how can u blame intelligence failure to POTA? how can u relate the two??intelligence agencies go well above any law or government...so if there is an intelligence failure during UPA govt...it would have been there in NDA too..POTA or no POTA...POTA is not related to intelligence at all!
lastly, i m a proud hindu but i am not proud of hindutva politics...ram sewaks were not innocent...the country was at peace before February 2002 when suddenly some kar sewaks decided to do pooja in the disputed site..why? they triggered off Muslims..u can't justify 1000 deaths in reply for 58...and u can't justify an incompetent dogmatic biased RSS walah chief minister who decided not to act till hindus vent their anger!!

Unknown said...

shashank says
@mathur
Lets start with varun Gandhi as I earlier mentioned in my last comment if CD is right and he truly uttered that word than nothing can be more unfortunate than that.but you cant book a 29 year old naïve inexperienced man under NSA.He is not threat to country and there are other really threatening present in country for using NSA.He could be forgiven for his immature outburst. U say "...BJP has no minority vote bank to lose...so they can say anything to become pseudo heroes!!' You are just strengthening my point by saying this ..it means all other parties have minority vote bank so they did the right thing by not condemning antulay for the fear of loosing vote..and you are justifying this.. what a pity…... now u think really other parties are secular ???
My friend you haven’t got my points really well regarding POTA and intelligence failure. police and intelligence agency really should have some power so that they can arrest and interrogate to suspects. And after POTA there were no such law that could strengthen the police department. you should visualize this picture in larger frame. police or intelligence don’t have any personal grudge to any community they take action only on suspects. If by interrogating suspects under pota or other laws(I agree some innocent people may be interrogated and arrested ) people can be saved or blast can be stopped than every one should be appreciating those laws. Take an example of your future country USA there laws are strong enough to provide sufficient power to FBI and CIA and now usa is the safest country to live after 9/11.By the way new home minister mr. P. Chitambram has put the MCOCA and the so called secularists cried a lot this time also .if the great mr. shivraj patil had done that before many lives could have been saved.
U say…. “ram sewaks were not innocent...the country was at peace before February 2002 when suddenly some kar sewaks decided to do pooja in the disputed site..why? they triggered off Muslims.’’ So now here you are justifying the killing of pilgrims and according to you they are not innocent because they were coming from ayodhya .have you ever been to ayodhya …do you know the importance of ayodhya. Ayodhya is the symbol of believes and faith of carores of hindus. ,its not necessary that only bjp people go there, people from all over the world come there for worshiping shree RAM. . First of all being in ayodhya for darshan and puja is not a crime and it seems that according to you entry in ayodhya should be banned. there are hundreds of temple in ayodhya not only disputed sites.. it is very sad to see that you are justifying the godhra killing..

Rishi said...

@MotaMathur

Once again this is childish ,, as we all know that no matter what we say it just doesnot matter.. WE dont vote , people who vote do not have their own brain to decide whom to vote... over all they do not have a clear .. oops@! not clear I should say any understandign at all of the current socio economic and political scenarion of india.. They can caste their vote for a bigger reason like "CASTE" or something as small as a hundred rupee note.

SO unless we vote..
( remembering that Constitution of India has some provision which says that you may register to vote and then not vote , and if number of such people is more than the number of people who vote the electoral would get cancelled for the constituency. FYI : I am in no way suggesting that you do this : I have fulll faith in the electoral system of India , even though I dont vote :) funny isn't it ? " )

anyway
just for the debate sake when you said "ram sewaks were not innocent...the country was at peace before February 2002 when suddenly some kar sewaks decided to do pooja in the disputed site..why? they triggered off Muslims.." it so fucki*** unfortunate ...
I am sad that a bright kid like you would say something as dumb as this .. Its unfortunate for the country that a group of people worshipping their god can cause some problem to the other community that they would go ahead to burn them in a train coach.
If you think that this could have provoked the other part of the society..it is damn unfortunate.

I'll tell you then what could have triggered their sentiments. Babri should have . But even though I do not have a documented proof for this I remember overhearing some people at the time when the Babri was destroyed , the then president of Iraq Saddam said " Muslims have destroyed many temples for hindus (to remind youa few take the case of many in kashmir , and yeah the Somnath temple)what if they destroyed one of ours , it does not matter anyway we dint worship there ".< Not sure if these were his exact words >.

And as far as any party is concerned with the good and bad of the country , what a joke would it be to say that they actually care.
This is the time when we choose best from the worst.

I would not say which one do I chose.

Writefully Yours said...

@shashank
thanks that u said that booking varun ghandhi under NSA is little too much...u made my job easier...thats exactly my point...what congress or sp have done with NSA is that they have manipulated it for their political benefits...that's what BJP and BSP did with POTA..so it's still the same thing...and u may support any party but we all know this much manipulation is nothing in Indian politics..no one is naive mind you...if u think varun ghandhi didn't know the consequences of what he said before he said that..then u r utterly mistaken my friend..they all know the consequences and they know negative publicity, in a very sad way though, makes way for big gains in politics...
Varun Ghandhi just took a leaf out of his mentor Modi's book and delibrately did it...look at Modi now..he was a figure of International Hatred after 2002..he was refused Visa for USA...but then there was a image make over...much like a reality TV show...and now he is a national icon of growth and prosperity...many people like me still don't like him and will continue to do so...but even we can't deny the fact that he is the most famous leader in India today and has replaced Vajpayee from BJP's posters...
Let me tell you how it works...there is a theory in Human Psychology that states that only fear can gel a diverse society..not love..not development..nothing else..but fear...Modi created that fear among the people of Gujarat and then reached his personal lows in 2002...from there everything he did was better as he could do no worse..and the scciety was more gelled than ever as they had a common fear...the result is a new and improved Gujarat...or atleast an image of it which very well marketed...either way it works..
regarding your views on Ayodhya...first of all i still don't consider them "pilgrims"...and there is not an iota of doubt in my mind regarding how holy is Ayodhya and how important it is for Hindus..i am just talkin about that disputed site which is disputed from 1992...by worshipping in that site they incited the Muslims...their worshipping at any other place or any other temple wouldn't have caused such a havoc...it was as if they challenged Muslims that we would do our Pooja in that site only as both state and central goverments are run by our people ..police obviously wont do anything...STOP US IF U CAN..
i can never defend the train killings...no Muslim can defend it..but what i want to say is that it was a reaction of people pushed against a wall against their wishes and then insult their religious beliefs as well...

Writefully Yours said...

@ rishi bhaiya
u seem very very dogmatic and confused to me...u don't vote...though u have such a clear conscience...and i get a feeling that u r strangely proud of it...whatever its ur personal issue..so, though u may be a bit sad to see a kid like me express my views on Godhra so strongly..i am sadder to see a person who is a role model to so many in VIT and HLA not vote...
anyways...regarding my comments on Muslims being incited in 2002...i said the same thing to the person above you..and i am saying it again..first of all i still don't consider them "pilgrims"...and there is not an iota of doubt in my mind regarding how holy is Ayodhya and how important it is for Hindus..i am just talkin about that disputed site which is disputed from 1992...by worshipping in that site they incited the Muslims...their worshipping at any other place or any other temple wouldn't have caused such a havoc...it was as if they challenged Muslims that we would do our Pooja in that site only as both state and central goverments are run by our people ..police obviously wont do anything...STOP US IF U CAN..
i can never defend the train killings...no Muslim can defend it..but what i want to say is that it was a reaction of people pushed against a wall against their wishes and then insult their religious beliefs as well...
quoting Saddam in an indian issue is out of sorts...its like u r looking for anyone around the world to help and support your cause...and let me tell u it was not a Muslim of a Souvereign Republic of India, like the Hindus who demolished the Babri...they were Mughals...they used to rule India...so its entirely a different case...

Rishi said...

First of all I am glad to see this "to see a person who is a role model to so many in VIT and HLA"... with that part that is after that about I do not vote .. that is not my will that is actually lack of opportunity .. same as the case with the concep of "losing virginity" for most of the Indians.. lol.. anyway I dont vote is not the thing.. I cant actually because for the past 4 years ( when I was eligible to vote ) I was never in my home town and pardon me for my insincere nature that I dint fly back home everytime there was a poll at my place.. I hope you dint mean that when you tried to be sracastic ( incase you did ).

Regarding the provoking the better part of the society by worshipping at the "Disputed Site" ..I still do not think it was big enough a deal ... If they were so Hurt they could have gone their and worshipped their god.. oh!! I forgot.. they dint worship there ever ( Hope you know that ).. that was just a monument to serve to the their pride built by an invader ( not that I mean that , i still feel Moughals have given a lot to India ) but you said so when you said "they were Mughals...they used to rule India"..
and when it can be a matter of pride for them being built sometime around 16th Century or later on the ground (where there was a temple ) by demolishing the temple,why cant it be a matter of pride for Hindus when it was the place may be made ( not sure though ) but atleast the place of birth of Lord Rama ( if not lord then atleast one of the Best Kings India has ever had , an Babar can not even be considered among the best of Moughals ).
Tell me why can not it be a matter of pride for a pride Hindu ?
Disclaimer : I have full faith in Indian Judiciary and Constitution and if they say the place is "Disputed" , I accept it that way. And in no way this post is to question the rights of our Muslim brothers on that place. But two things that this post is about ..
1. My point of view
2. Hope that there would be a solution to this problem which, take it as a fact, is not possible with this kind of political system in India.
Hope Indians ( all Hindu Muslims and others get "Sad-Buddhi" ).

God Bless India.

Writefully Yours said...

@rishi bhaiya
first of all i wasn't being sarcastic when i said about u not polling...i just didn't see any repentance in ur language for not voting...or not been able to vote...as i said it's not ur personal issue...
so u believe that there is no difference between a 16th century Mughal ruler and a 20 century government...we can still be as barbaric as we can coz its a matter of "our pride"...we can commit the same horrendous acts coz someone did it 500 years ago and "hurt our pride"...we haven't evolved then..have we?
and regarding the question of Lord Ram's birth place...i am sure no where in mythology it's written that he was born at exact same place as Babri Masjid...or as u say that temple that was demolished...think about it...if he was born "RIGHT THERE" then they had to frist demolish the Palace to make that temple which was later demolished to make a Mosque by Babar..!!!! too much of demolition..isn't it..!! (now this is sarcasm!!)
i think it's time that we grow up and stop blaming ppl who died 500 years ago for our current situations...

lifes' like this.. never fair never right said...

With all the demolition theory even if it was not the exact place where shree Ram took birth and may be there was nothing when Babar might have got this wonderful idea of building a mosque there where no one ever worshipped.. and I am not the one who decided it to be a place of Hindu Pride .. I just compared the situation in the light of your argument that the Pooja done by some carsewaks might have provoked them ( who ever did this ) to burn down a coach full of the carsewaks , I just could not find a good enough reason to convince myself that it was even remotely possible ( Only In case it was actually a radical Hindu - Muslim issue ). we took this whole debate over the Hindu-Muslim thing when in reality it does not even concern them . The whole scene behind the curtain is sone sort of dirty politics orchestrated by some dirty fellow who ( Please dont be dumb and take the name of one party which might have carried out the demolition or may be cooked the political brunch on the heat , both are equally responsible for all the hue and cry ) knew perfectly that people in this country are sumb enough to believe them and thus creating a totally new aspect of politics .

Its only politics which has accumulated tons of bullshit mixed with anger of illiterate from both the Hindu and Muslim society over this Babri masjid issue .

Otherwise the innate tolerance of the human being would have easily ignored the issue if not for a greater good but atleast for the peace of mind.


And as far as the temple and the mosque issue is there , I am sure most of us would agree on a common solution which might have a temple and a mosque both..
but what do you think .. the matter would be closed ? Why do you think neither of the parties ever took a strong step toward solving the issue ?
Because this issue is their bread and butter .. and even if this issue gt resolved there are enough fools to create another one faster than you can imagine . the whole thing is like the mythological saree of Draupadi , no matter what you do , saree would not end or in more relevant terms which you would understand , this issue is a fucking chewingum in our hair you cant get it out no matter what unless you have the courage to cut it down and then forget it .

Imagine a day when caste and religion disappeared from the Indian Politics .. what would remain ..
Just a Clueless stupid politician...

( Sorry my thoughts got scatterred here and there , hope you would get the crux of the idea ).

Ganesh A Sundar said...

Well, this comment comes late. I just happened to go thro your blog today. If you feel you're ashamed to call yourself a Hindu because of post-Godhra, Babri and Orissa, you might have to think a second time before writing it, at least after reading this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus